The Francis Effect podcast: Looming shutdown; German same-sex unions; Brian Flanagan

Brian Flanagan (Courtesy of New Ways Ministry)

Brian Flanagan (Courtesy of New Ways Ministry)

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NCR senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf is part of the new season of "The Francis Effect" podcast, joining co-hosts Franciscan Fr. Daniel Horan (columnist for NCR) and David Dault, executive producer and host of "Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith."

Heidi, Father Daniel and David discuss the threat of U.S. government shutdown and its effects on the vulnerable, and look at the recent friction in Cologne, Germany, over the blessing of same-sex unions. In addition, Heidi interviews Brian Flanagan of New Ways Ministry about synodality.

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